








14. 09. 2004
Crouching Warrior, Hidden Princess by Woo Ming Jin
This is what I feel after the two and the half hour movie: I don’t know if Puteri Gunung Ledang is the best Malaysian film ever made, but it’s definitely one of the best local films I’ve seen. It is clearly better than the garbage of Makar, which looks like a student film, and Pontianak Harum Sundal Malam, which is also like a student film but with a higher budget. I don’t really recall the other films, which is a good thing, believe me.
But what is wrong with PGL? Why don’t I feel a sense of… completeness? Why do I find myself looking at my watch halfway through it, and why do I keep asking myself questions that I suppose I would not have asked have I been engulfed by the film’s power? The thing is, PGL, directed by commercial and music video director Saw Teong Hin, is no fast paced thriller. This movie would’ve rocked at a 100 minutes, instead of 146 minutes. I'm pretty sure of it. Well, maybe not.
The story of PGL is a simple one (script by Mamat Khalid). Woman and Man fall deeply in love. Brother of woman wants to marry her off to the Sultan, to save his own country. Man, who works for the Sultan, feels torn between love and duty, as does Woman. Man and Woman must decide what to do, and face the consequences of their decisions.
The first 20 minutes or so play out pretty well; we are kept in a state of mild intrigue as we find out why the princess has decided to “escape” into the wilderness of Gunung Ledang. The tone of the movie reminds me of how I felt when I saw the first Lord of the Rings film – the way it starts out right in the thick of things, and just kept going from there. The initial fight sequence which introduces Hang Tuah, the hero, is pretty cool. So is the dance scene when they first meet.
But then slowly the movie goes into “auto” mode, as we meander through scene after scene of exposition that rarely touch any sense of dramatic tension. Suddenly I feel the movie is gliding on its emotional surface, its ripple of substance slowly dissipating. There are too many “here-let-me-show-you-my-culture” shots, too much time spent on people bowing and fanning and royal processions that slow the movie down and add little to the story.
The courtship between the Princess (Tiara Jacquelina) and Hang Tuah (M. Nasir) lacked a sense of sensuality that was seen in movies like The English Patient and Jude (movies also about sacrifices of love). Sure it would’ve been nice to have seen a kiss, but forget kiss, what about just any form of physical contact? A silhouetted scene of the princess’ body, perhaps, being caressed by the dashing Hang Tuah? Midway through the film, there’s a scene where the princess is bathing in the river, and the prince stands over her by the bank. They talk in intimate terms, but physically, they seem miles apart. Had the leads exuded a strong invisible chemistry between them, this would not have been a problem. But they do not. Their love, alas, does not seem legendary.
It isn’t so much that the censorship ‘guidelines’ did it to them. I feel that the filmmakers simply respected the character of the princess too much – they did not want to ‘taint’ her saintly image by depicting her in any risqué scenes (a passionate romp by the riverside, for instance). She almost always appears in control, rational, even in the face of immense pressure. I don’t know if I agree with this, though I recognise this as an artistic choice.
Other small things bothered me. For instance, I could not feel the desire of the Sultan (Adlin Aman Ramlie) for the princess. He saw her dance, and I suppose this was enough for him to want her in a bad way. But all the time I wondered, well, does he really want her (like the way Joaquin Phoenix’s character lusted over his sister in Gladiator – something we actually saw in his eyes)? Or is this just another opportunity to take a second wife? I couldn’t tell, and that bothered me.
The princess herself appeared ambivalent about what she wanted. One minute she says she’s marrying the Prince of Demak. The next minute she wants to live alone in the hill. The cruel irony of PGL is the title character is the least well developed one of all the leads.
Taking two legends and combining them is a smart idea. Hang Tuah meets the Princess of Mount Ledang. Snappy. Actually I’m one who doesn’t care much for literary accuracy unless it’s based on fact. This story is based on legend. There are probably several versions to the PGL story. So maybe there’ll be a few people who’ll bitch that they made up a lot of the stuff and the timeline was all jumbled up, but hey, tell me an interesting story, and you can put Cinderella in there for all I care.
The performances generally were above par. Production design (Haznizar binti Ithnin) was good, as was the photography (Jason Kwan). All in all, I could see where the money went. There’s a lot of talk about how much the film cost, and how much was spent promoting it, but in the end, US$5 million bucks isn’t that much for a grand epic film (I do not know how much this film actually cost, as budgets are often inflated). In America, for that amount of money, you get an independent drama with a couple of fading A-list stars. But the cost of a film is unimportant. The content is more important.
Saying all this, the movie did make me feel that the local film scene has taken a step out of the depths it has stayed so firmly in for so long. The filmmakers obviously put in a lot of effort to ensure that their vision came across. I’ve heard money was spent for digital shots that eventually were not used, and the director treated each frame with detailed care. This is how a movie should be made, and this is how they did it.
Despite the flaws I saw that prevented the film from being hailed as a “masterpiece”, I felt there was some hope left in our industry.
Ah, the beauty of hope.
User Comments
| posted by mietonym |
| hype?hypnosis? a VERY much anticipated malaysian movie has come to pass and how do we feel about it?....differently as different as our experience i believe...nak buat macam mana...our comments vary due to the levels of appreciation...what was the last film you watched before PGL?what movies excite you?Bruckheimer's fast paced gung-ho action?melayu cintan-cintun?..or akira kurosawa's Ran? it was refereshing but i believe we are only now at par with some of our neighbours...
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| posted by laoseq |
| In my humble opinion, the director is in dilema either they should show a close proximity of the two main characters or not. Because, during that time I think dating2 ni kalau kantul boleh kena sula beb... (ala mahsuri), apa lagi pegang2 and romping2... only in our recent time je, banyak sangat tengok filem barat, bollywood and hong kong, terpengaruh when two people are in love, mesti nak ada intimate scene... The Klasik Malayness (or you can call it kolot-ness) of the movie should be exegerated more... They should meet only once at the tarian scene and fall in love at the first sight, lepas tu main tulis-tulis surat and angau2 je... baru la True Love beb... tapi tak komersial la pulak... dilema-dilema... All in all, with the semangat Malaysia Asal Boleh, boleh la... but where the 15mil++ pergi? pelabuhan Melaka macam Lang Buana, Majapahit duduk dalam bilik kecik, Istana Melaka ada sorang Interior Designer je ke? Repeat the same decoration all over the place...CG crap... I wonder how much APV get...
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| posted by azie |
| Your review is very spot-on. I find the film a bit draggy.M Nasir does not internalise his character and he looks 'amoebic' in his scenes with Tiara.The Sultan is doggone goofy too. However, whatever your preferences maybe, I think we should applaud the producer/director for their effort to register Malaysia in the international movie radar. My hope is, they stay firm on their cause and true to their cause. After all, many a talented director has gone haywire in the presence of big budget and bigger expectations.
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| posted by Zed |
| After watching too many Malay movies with bad dubbing, PGL was a refreshing change. Going forward, taking a leaf from PGL, local movies makers must do live recording or sound stage for studio recordings. This is the only strong point I could observe from PGL. In terms of editing, characterising and story-telling, makers of PGL had completely forgotten about the basics of telling a tale on the silver screen. They could have at least showed the human side of Hang Tuah, like going back home to face brickbats from his family and friends for his passionate feelings, so that we could sympatise his love for the Puteri. That goes for the Puteri too. What we get are chops and pieces of their memories and hardly any motive or basis for their love. It was like a long documentary with interviews and snippets. Nobody I think cried for both or either of them when they were seperated eventually. Furthermore, PGL lacked an objective. A movie must have an objective; to make people sad, happy, scared, motivated, educated? I felt it was a good waste of money. A good tale not told by people who had no experience in movie-making and story-telling. Or is it that they have an objective quite unlike from what we have in mind when we pay for our tickets?
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| posted by ed sharif |
| I have been reading so many comments on PGL but these are not the influencing factor why i am still not lured to watch the movie. Why I am not tempted to watch? 1. PGL was acted by an aging Tiara Jacquelina. Since I was small I have been a big fan of Sejarah Melaka, including the Legend Of Puteri Gunung Ledang. I have this imagination of PGL physical attributes and I dont want to spoil it by watching Tiara striving to be one. SHE IS TO OLD FOR THE PART!!! Further, she has no Javanese features, she has no right to represent PGL only because she forked out money to make the movie. Mind me, PGL was a young blossom who is innocent and humble. I would imagine she was only 16 refering to the fact that in the older days, women get married around that age. But Tiara, she looked 36! Remember Saadiah when she acted as orang asli Gunung Ledang in P. Ramlee's Hang Tuah. She looked so naive and sweet, full of grace and feminine. I must admit I fall in love with that character till today. Remember Zaiton as Tun Teja? She was just stunning! Why didn't the face and the character of PGL was drawn along that line? Honestly, that is why some viewer commented that they could not feel the love and affection between PGL and Hang Tuah. Well, cant blame them. It is difficult to visualize a 'mak orang' looking princess that resembles Virginia Wolfe to have a love flick. 2. M Nasir is also too old for Hang Tuah. I would imagine Hang Tuah should be around mid twenties. Full of charisma, speaks with pride and a playful person at the same time. M Nasir is just too serious for the character. He look so stressed and really looked like 'bapak orang' in the poster. 3. Sofia Jane is too pan asian. So as others like Christine Hakim and Alex Komang. So the element of Java ( as the story was narrated ) was inevitably not there. 4. PGL as what been told by my late grandma ( who is apparently orang melaka)was a mystery. The origination, nobody knows. Even when dippicted in Sulalatus Salatin, PGL was narrated to be a mystery. So I dont think the story line in the movie is worth watching. 5. I know the fact that the movie maker will immitate Hong KOng movie. I am a big fan of hongkong movie. So I dont like to be comparing PGL with more superior HK's. Am i not supporting local movies? Yes, I am not. Not by watching them. I dont have to force my self to. But if PGL want to earn bucks from ticket collection, please let me know. I think it is also possible for me to buy the ticket without watching the movie. I have built a strong and beautiful PGL in my mind since I was small. Grandma used to narrate the story complete with beautiful syair and gurindam. I dont think it is fair to throw that away just because PGL had spent millions on the movie. ed TO me, PGL is a mystery.
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| posted by ed sharif |
| I have been reading so many comments on PGL but these are not the influencing factor why i am still not lured to watch the movie. Why I am not tempted to watch? 1. PGL was acted by an aging Tiara Jacquelina. Since I was small I have been a big fan of Sejarah Melaka, including the Legend Of Puteri Gunung Ledang. I have this imagination of PGL physical attributes and I dont want to spoil it by watching Tiara striving to be one. SHE IS TO OLD FOR THE PART!!! Further, she has no Javanese features, she has no right to represent PGL only because she forked out money to make the movie. Mind me, PGL was a young blossom who is innocent and humble. I would imagine she was only 16 refering to the fact that in the older days, women get married around that age. But Tiara, she looked 36! Remember Saadiah when she acted as orang asli Gunung Ledang in P. Ramlee's Hang Tuah. She looked so naive and sweet, full of grace and feminine. I must admit I fall in love with that character till today. Remember Zaiton as Tun Teja? She was just stunning! Why didn't the face and the character of PGL was drawn along that line? Honestly, that is why some viewer commented that they could not feel the love and affection between PGL and Hang Tuah. Well, cant blame them. It is difficult to visualize a 'mak orang' looking princess that resembles Virginia Wolfe to have a love flick. 2. M Nasir is also too old for Hang Tuah. I would imagine Hang Tuah should be around mid twenties. Full of charisma, speaks with pride and a playful person at the same time. M Nasir is just too serious for the character. He look so stressed and really looked like 'bapak orang' in the poster. 3. Sofia Jane is too pan asian. So as others like Christine Hakim and Alex Komang. So the element of Java ( as the story was narrated ) was inevitably not there. 4. PGL as what been told by my late grandma ( who is apparently orang melaka)was a mystery. The origination, nobody knows. Even when dippicted in Sulalatus Salatin, PGL was narrated to be a mystery. So I dont think the story line in the movie is worth watching. 5. I know the fact that the movie maker will immitate Hong KOng movie. I am a big fan of hongkong movie. So I dont like to be comparing PGL with more superior HK's. Am i not supporting local movies? Yes, I am not. Not by watching them. I dont have to force my self to. But if PGL want to earn bucks from ticket collection, please let me know. I think it is also possible for me to buy the ticket without watching the movie. I have built a strong and beautiful PGL in my mind since I was small. Grandma used to narrate the story complete with beautiful syair and gurindam. I dont think it is fair to throw that away just because PGL had spent millions on the movie. ed TO me, PGL is a mystery.
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| posted by hamba allah |
| filem ini bagus dari filem-filem yusuf haslam,razak mohaideen,aziz m.osman,zulkifli m.osman,z.lokman,mohd nor kadir dan rashid sibir..tetapi kurang bagus dibandingkan dengan filem-filem yang dibuat oleh u-wei,adman salleh dan hishamuddin rais..kiranya filem ini terletak di tengah-tengah..kira bagus laa tu.
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| posted by azyard |
| kenapa ek? becoz diz is d' way hoe human thinking... what he(includes she) right, it will be the best.. but some how he never been satisfied... kenape ek? becoz our mentality being hypnotized by foreign films.. we judge PGL with other great film... ofcourse it wouldn't be the same... diz is d'1st and ever malay film able to reach at diz stage... maybe diz genre can't fulfil our aspect from hear much compliments kot... kenape ek? becoz.. they spent over 20 million RINGGIT... it is ringgit.. seems to big amount of money... ye la... dalam malaysia.. 20 juta to equals to 4 mil usd jer... kenape ek? please give a chance to our penggiat film for try their best... i puji diz film.. at least they're not melepaskan batuk ditangga... our standard is too far contrast to us,uk or even thaland and iranian film.. they have reach the high level.. our film its not really that bad.. our klemahan is in terms of research... no research, then the film become not realistic, we're dreaming for along time and PGL has waken up our mind... oh.. diz is good story... maybe somebody not agree with diz comment but it is true! percayalah... ini bukan cobaan... ini betul² kejadian...! kenape ek? pemilihan pelakon pun antara elemen penting dlm p'bikinan film... it is proven by PGL... yeah, maybe we have difficulties in searching actor and actress coz we live in a very small country but never forget we have a big heart to share with... PGL ni dah tunjukkan nilai² org melayu.. yes ade certain part yg kurang sesuai... harap dijadikan iktibar.. take it as a lesson to produce a better film in future... kenapa ek? i'm not and experienced person with high authority to urge diz comment to take in consideration, but only peminat kecil antara ribuan peminat filem di Malaysia... susah kalau semua bg comment yg tak membina.. maybe we have been treated with mulut² lazer and keep blaming other or mungking tak suke tgok orng senang atau pun berjaya... percubaan ini diharapkan stepping stone for other peggiat film di malaysia utk produce film best.. tak salah kalau buat film khayalan tapi biar satu keistimewaan yg luarbiasa ditonjolkan supaya pengkritik baru sedar... filem malaysia best rupenyer...
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| posted by maniam |
| u said no money, hard to make good film. i gave u money, also make mediocre film. what do you want really?
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| posted by ed |
| Nilai-nilai orang Melayu? Apakah nilai-nilai orang Melayu yang cuba diketengahkan oleh PGL? Hang Tuah was depicted as a looser, Sultan was depicted as a Dictator...... Video klip Asmaradana macam Britney Spears tak jadi. Bukannya saya ni berniat nak mengutuk filem Melayu, namun pada saya PGL dibuat dengan agenda tersendiri. Saya amat tak bersetuju sekiranya kita gembar-gemburkan inilah filem Melayu terbaik yang pernah dibuat. Pernah tengok 'Malaikat dijendela'dan Buai laju-laju? Kenapa orang tak membandingkan filem-filem ni dengan filem Hollywood atau Hong Kong? Sebab originality. Kalau kita imitate, sure orang akan bandingkan. Budget bukanlah issue besar dalam pembikinan filem. Yang penting originality. Lihat sahaja filem yang berbudget cipot macam Pasir Berbisik dari Indonesia, atau Nang Nak dari Thailand, banyak peminat jugak kan? Soal pelakon, itulah cabarannya dalam pembikinan filem. Rekruitler muka-muka baru. Tak hensem...tak lawa....tak apa. Apa ler salahnya kalau Puteri Gunung Ledang tu tak lawa sangat tapi mempunyai nilai wanita yang bisa meruntun jiwa setiap jejaka yang melihat. Jadi tak ler cliche. Bila sebut Puteri jer mesti lawa giler. Malaysia bukan kecik, besar jugak. Nak carik pelakon bukan susah. Audition jer. Malaysian Idol punya audition jer 16 ribu orang datang. Tapi nak buat macamana....Tiara nak jugak penuhi impian dia jadi PGL. Lepas tu nak suruh orang Malaysia support filem dia. Kalau tak support akan dijatuhi hukuman seolah-olah tak berjiwa Malaysia. Kalau nak buat filem.....janganlah memperlekeh-lekehkan keupayaan orang Malaysia untuk menilai. Itulah yang jadi pada 'Embun' dan 'Paloh'. ORANG MALAYSIA BUKAN BODOH!!!!
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| posted by Rahman |
| Ed sharif, It is good that you mention about Sulalatus Salatin.The depiction of Hang Tuah is actually accurate.Yes,he is old at that PGL time and could be in his 40's or 50's.PGL was during Sultan Mahmud and if you say he is in his 20's,that could be during Sultan Mansur I guess you are so naive in your reading.
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| posted by tim |
| hello ed... just nak bagitau kalau ikut hikayat hang tuah, tuah masa zaman pgl ni dah tua. nak panjat g.ledang pun larat.tu pasal tun mamat sorang aje yang pegi naik sampai atas.bukan mid 20s. so i think m.nasir is actually too YOUNG to be tuah in this film.pgl lak tak tau la pulak sebab asal usul pun tak tau la pulak...
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| posted by Man |
| Ed, i think you are so ignorant and made a prejudgement about the film without actually watching it.i salute those who watched it and made their comment whether good or bad.It depends on individual's taste. What the hell you are talking about your grandma?Is she a historian?
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| posted by Zed |
| Dear People, A movie can be anywhere between fact and fiction. It is the story, plot, strength of the script and cinematography that determines a success of a movie. The box office is the undisputed measure of success. Unless the producers are on some ego trip to throw away money. Soon we will know how PGL fared at the ebox office. My guess is that it'll fail miserably simply because I had seen it. As for the commnets posted to this sight, I say keep it up. It shows that we are all concerned for the direction of the movie industry. It is the paying public, people like us who determines the success of the local movie industry. Therefore,watch it first and give your comments. Leave Ed's grandmother alone. And Tiara might just cast her for PGL Version II, when the Puteri obviously gets old. Probably then Ed would go and watch it to add to the box office recepits. Regards
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| posted by ed sharif |
| People, I had no intention to check on your knowledge on history. Anyway, PGL the movie is not about history. It is just about a narrator telling a story of his version. Sometimes it is good to read and understand what someone is trying to say rather than read and blindly throw bombardment. I quoted Sulalatus Salatin to justify that Puteri Gunung Ledang was a mystery. This is so clear when the transcript mentioned: Hatta berapa lamanya, maka isteri Sultan Mahmud, bonda Raja Ahmad itu pun mangkat; maka Sultan Mahmud pun sangat bercinta. Maka baginda memberi titah pada Bendahara dan pada segala Orang Besar-besar, "Apakah bicara Orang Kaya sekalian, kerana negeri Melaka sekarang tiada beraja perempuan?" Maka sembah Bendahara dengan segala Orang Besar-besar, :Anak raja mana yang hendak tuanku pinag? Supaya patik sekalian kerjakan," Maka titah Sultan Mahmud, "Jikalau kita hendak beristerikan sama anak raja, raja yang lain adalah; yang kita kehendaki barang yang tiada pada raja-raja yang lain, itulah yang hendak kita peristeri. Akan sekarang kita hendak menyuruh meminang Puteri Gunung Ledang, Laksamana dan Sang Setialah kita titahkan. Hang Tuah has always been a hero especially for a Malay who grew up listening to stories about him. I did mentioned 'I would imagined' which means 'saya dapat bayangkan' that Hang Tuah was in his mid twenties. We do have imagination about heroes. All this while we still regard Superman or Batman as a young, strong and with powers. Ten years to come, Superman or Batman will still be the same. This is a mental image that we have. So we personifies Hang Tuah in the same manner. He is a Malay hero. Anyway, according to my reading (even so, I am not a qualified Historian as you all claimed to be), it has not been mentioned that the 'Laksmana' who went to Gunung Ledang was Hang Tuah. In the text Meminang 'Puteri Gunung Ledang' page 212-215 of Sulalatus Salatin authored by A Samad Ismail, only the word 'Laksmana' was mentioned who went together with Tun Mamad and Sang Setia to Gunung Ledang. Further narrated, only Tun Mamad actualy climbed Gunung Ledang and met the head mistress of Gunung Ledang named Dang Raya Rani and the nenek kebayan. He had not even met the actual Puteri. You are right. My late grandma was never a historian. She was just a grandma who likes to narrate old folks stories to her grandchildren. She has no secular education like most of us have but she told us her version of story exactly as what was writtened in the book we are refering to. We can brag about our degrees, diplomas yadadi....yadada.... but once we are old, I wonder what bedtime story can we tell our grandchildren? Cinderella? Why I bother to write my comment here? Because I believe the movie had failed to deliver history or even an epic. I dont really bother if it was not titled 'Puteri Gunung Ledang'.
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| posted by laoseq |
| I understand what u are trying to say... and I can respect if you decided not to watch the movie... but sometime with have to let our ego down and just watch it... the movie will not give a strong impact anyway to compete with your grandma's version... at least you'll have something to compare with...
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| posted by sobby |
| tsk...tsk...tsk... sob sob sob... so drama....
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| posted by fizzi |
| "Sure it would’ve been nice to have seen a kiss, but forget kiss, what about just any form of physical contact? A silhouetted scene of the princess’ body, perhaps, being caressed by the dashing Hang Tuah?" Aiiieee...tiiidaaakkk. Ku tak relaaa!! Frankly, the only thing I was praying for NOT to happen in the movie was such physical contact. Censorship? Embarrassed? Actually, no. I just wanted to be spared from watching them fulfill and conform to that obligatory prerequisite...from going down that beaten road. But, having said that, yes, "had the leads exuded a strong invisible chemistry between them" - just a tad more - it could have helped.
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| posted by ed sharif |
| I received these comments in my mailbox, I hope you guys dont mind me sharing with others email 1: in ler org kita...tak blh tengok org senang! Rasanya dia ni dok asyik tengok line2 cerita mcm Sembilu..Tak ke mana...arah tujuannya..Bila org dah ada duit cukup budget besar..ada jugak niat dia nak market kan filem kita kat luar, ambil risiko buat macam ni..pun comment lagi..Haprak betul!So far, Hang Tuah sesuai pada M.Nasir because sapa lagi nak pegang watak > macho & berkarisma mcm tu..emmm Rosyam Noor? Anyway, I should proud because > ramai penonton bukan Melayu yg tonton..(because I had a Indian friend-he's a doctor and he was excited than me before the movie had released)Bukan > calang2 panggung wayang kat Puchong tiket boleh sold-out!..Cerita Melayu plak tu!For the sake filem epik MELAYU, saya memertabatkan cerita ini dgn tidak > memforwardkan pada sesiapa.. Thanks Ayu...for fwd-ing this email..I'm glad that this guy and gal love > to comment and give a picture what's happening to the New Malay Generation would like nowadays... Email 2: Any comments ?? Dunno coz haven't watch the movie yet Email 3: Subject: RE: Puteri Gunung Ledang > > > > > > Dearest to all those "why I chosed not to watch...Puteri Gunung Ledang > > (PGL)". > > > > Saya setuju dengan pendapat yang mengatakan pelakon utama PGL langsung > > tidak > > menunjukkan ciri-ciri sebenar "wajah" sejarah. > > > > Benar, Tiara Jacqueline terlalu tua untuk watak PGL!! dan mana mungkin > > watak > > Hang Tuah (M Nasir) sebagai pahlawan besar dan tersohor kehebatan beliau > > > > mempermainkan PERSEMBAHAN untuk Sultan!!!. Sejarah Melaka tahu Hang > > Tuah > > tidak akan derhaka pada Sultan!!!!!!!!!!. > > > > Sepatutnya watak PGL diberikan pada pelakon berusia 17, 18 atau 19 tahun > > > > yang kecantikannya tidak teruji lagi (tidak di ketahui umum) sementara > > watak > > Hang Tuah harus diberi pada pemuda seusia 26 hingga 29 tahun!. > > > > Lebih memalukan PGL menari-menari dengan dayang-dayang lelaki!. Dalam > > sejarah mana ada seorang puteri menari-menari dengan dayang-dayang > > lelaki!!!. > > > > Setahu sayalah samaada di Barat, Asia Tengah dan Asia, produser-produser > > > > sanggup bertahun mencari pelakon-pelakon yang sesuai untuk kesamaan > > watak > > sejarah dulu kala. > > > > Dan tidak semestinya Tiara mengeluarkan modal jutaan ringgit, dia perlu > > mengambil watak utama PGL. > > > > Bagi saya keseluruhan cerita Puteri Gunung Ledang sudah merosakkan > > sejarah > > asal kerajaan Negeri Melaka. Sayang sekali perkara ini berlaku > > ................. > > thanks guys
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| posted by fizza |
| I love u fizzi!
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| posted by akumelayu |
| membaca komen2 yg sungguh memberangsangkan menunjukkan penonto kita bukanlah dungu...yang mudah disogok oleh promo bernilai berjuta...memanglah filem milik pembikinnya...jalan cerita boleh digubah mengikut rasa...tapi sebagai sebuah kisah cinta agung...PGL gagal...Tiara bagai puteri yang tandus...gersang...lenggoknya tidak setanding zaitun,,,lirik matanya tidak menggugat seperti mana saadiah...kenapa mesti mengagungkan PGL sedang belanja sebegitu hasilnya tak seberapa...bukan membanding dengan hollywood, hongkong maupun bollywood ...renung kembali bukit kepong...yg masih kita rasa pedihnya perang. Jgn kerana tiara kita lupa usul...walau hanya legenda...sanggupkah hikayat, sejarah, mitos atau apa saja milik melayu diperkotak-katek oleh manusia tiara...hanya kerana impian peribadi...kita sudah terlalu banyak berkompromi...belajarlah dari manusia yasmin yang mencetus dari rasa ikhlas...bagi yang hanya tengok 1 atau 2 filem melayu...walau anda pembikin filem...jangan pandai2 mengangkat filem yg membelakangkan lagenda...kalau belum kenal P.Ramlee...atau Jins Shamsudin jgn melabel filem melayu...lupakan yusuf, razak atau lain-lain golongannya...mereka bukan wakil pembikin filem melayu...mereka pembikin filem nyamuk...kita ada u-wei, adman dll yg mungkin boleh berkembang kalau tidak ada sekatan...dan mungkin ada antara pemberi2 komen yg akan muncul sebagai wira filem melayu...
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| posted by filmania |
| Sejak aku pandai menonton, aku tengok semua filem! Aku besar dengan obsess kepada filem-filem Melayu lama, tak kiralah P.Ramlee ke, Nordin Ahmad ke, Saadiah ke, Latifah Omar ke! Lepas tu aku admire ABANG, dan terhibur dengan filem-filem ADIK MANJA, ALI SETAN dan lain-lain yang seangkatan. Bila Yusof Haslam meledak, aku tengok semua filemnya juga, daripada SEMBILU sampailah GERAK GERAK GERAK KHAS tu. AKu juga tengok filem U-Wei atau filem tak U-Wei - kalau ada duit aku akan ke panggung la la tu jugak, kalau tak ada duit, aku tunggu sampai ada duit then aku beli cd. Opss ... bukan filem Melayu aje. AKu juga tengok filem Jepun daripada zaman Tokyo Story sampailah Welcome Back Mr McDonald dan sampai sekarang. Filem Iran akulah yang menangis dalam panggung waktu tengok Children of Heaven. Filem Hollywood, Bollywood dan Hong Kong jangan cakap ler ... tak nak tengok pun terpaksa tengok! Berlambak beb! Dan still ada yang aku suka dan ada juga yang aku tak suka. Bila aku suka aku akan layan filem tu dan tengok banyak kali, sampai sepuluh kali pun tak apa. Aku tak pernah rasa bodoh apabila menonton sebab aku rasa tak ada orang yang nak buang duit dan masa untuk buat filem. Setiap filem menambah pengalaman dan kematangan aku berfikir. Yusof Haslam pun nak bagi nilai murni jugak tapi dia tak belajar filem jadi dia buatlah cara tak belajar. So, aku pun menontonlah pada level yang aku tau dia tu tak belajar filem. Tapi selepas sepuluh tahun dia juga mencapai kematangannya sendiri - AND THE OBVIOUS THING WAS dia dah jadi anak Melayu yang sukses sekarang. U-wei pulak ada masanya aku tak suka juga filem dia, macam Buai Laju-Laju tu entahlah .... lepas tengok aku tak rasa ada benda baru menambah kematangan aku. Sama saja aku masuk dan keluar panggung. Seronok je lah tengok Betty berkemban ... bukan senang weii ... Aku suka relax bila menonton, kalau aku suka aku layan, pernah juga aku tidur dalam panggung tapi bagi aku itu hak akulah. Tapi aku tak pernah marah produser sebab buatkan aku tidur. Aku kesian lagi kat diorang sebab penat penat buat filem tapi aku tidur ... MENDAM BERAHI yang teruk tu pun aku tengok jugak! All that SENARIOs tu pun aku tengok. Bab lawak aku gelak je lah, apa susah! PGL ... okey apa! Memanglah casting hampeh tapi ... apa nak buat dah itu jer yang dia mampu. Dah level itu je terbukaknya hati Tiara, dan itu yang dia suka! Hmmm .... aku cuma harap para penonton dapat gunakan pertimbangan yang waras untuk kritik filem. Kalau you all tak waras, filem yang memang bodoh 1 akan bertambah jadi bodoh 5!!! Peace!
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| posted by Ati |
| i really love the way the movie portrays the love scenes between hang tuah and puteri. polite, decent but romantic. they didn't touch each other with lust, look with sexual-kind-of-looking. this is a malaysian movie, without dash of westernized-lovescene-guideline. really enjoy it!
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| posted by ed sharif |
| Thank you. I finally shut my expectations, went ahead watched PGL. It was a fantastic journey through NATIONAL GEOGRAPHY minus the feel of period movie. The scenery shown fits the requirement for Visit Malaysia promotion. Felt like watching Cuti-cuti Malaysia video clips. Excellent attempt and experiment to uplift local film industry. Somehow, M. Nasir looked as if he has so many hidden stories behind the character. Could not help but noticed the inconsistency of Hang Tuah character from scene to scene. Nevermind, I leave my comment there. Tak nak comment lagi, nanti 'orang' marah. Well, I have done my bit. I have supported Malaysia Movie Industry! Hooorahhhhh!
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| posted by ham |
| PGL is a commendable effort for our local movie scene. Now if we can stop bitching about everbody's idea of perfection, perhaps we can carry on with the work of uplifting our dismal movie industry. Who's next?
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| posted by anita subarin |
| Movies are for audience to appreciate. Of course people have their opinions. I am sure people dont bitch for fun. It takes a lot of effort and courage to express their views. When some people hold their tongue and shun away from local movies, some would still like to see improvement. But how are we going to improve if there is no critics. I am sure serious film producers would like to read people's opinion so that they dont make film that 'syok sendiri'. After reading all comments and the so called bitching session here, I am glad that Malaysian are not a bunch of idiots. We have our views and that keeps the industry in dynamics.
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| posted by Adnan Qiyas |
| It was set back in the 15 hundreds, at a time when the Melaka empire was at its peak. Such was a time when us Malays were at our most properous, and when our culture was at its most influential. It is already known that the Malays have deep intrinsic respect towards values such as politeness, subtlety and dignity. As a Laksamana, who has a reputation that stretches decades and wars, not to mention scrupulous and honourable, Hang Tuah's actions during the intimate scenes does not go over the boundaries of the known Malay values. A mere gentle and honest touch would be a gesture enough to suggest to PGL that she was indeed in his affections. Given Hang Tuah's background, having been trained by Adi Putra, is a background that withholds the values of loyalty, subordination and the known Malay values, and this background does not permit him to do anything more intimate with PGL than the ones we saw. It would have been blasphemous to see the character of Hang Tuah, a figure of Malay authority and a symbol of virtous Malay values, be compromised in such a way that he would kiss PGL, a princess whose status and fate alone presides well over Hang Tuah's. And on the part of PGL, as a well-groomed princess, educated, trained and clutured in the values of her own Jawa-ness, which is derivative of the Malay values, it was also seemingly more than adequate. She too was a symbol of the Malay values, and compromising her 'saintly' image with an act of intimacy such as kissing would be blasphemous for the same reasons that apply to Hang Tuah. Look at it this way, a Malay princess, no matter how in love she is, and no matter the time/era she is in, should not overdo any intimate gestures as it would go against the values she has lived by and symbolized. Same goes for a character a virtous as Hang Tuah. But the fact that they did, at least touch hands and put their arms around each other, and concurred to a small ceremony of bonding their love, has shown that even the power of love, would come over that boundary set by the values. And their actions was as much as they could muster, without breaking the boundaries which they live by into two. At the same time, it has also indicated to us viewers that they are more than just in love, but rather, are 'together' spiritually. Many here seem to champion Malay values, but do you know that by being articulate, polite and subtle in the words you choose, regardless in English and Bahasa, would also be Malay-ish? And to grasp sth subtle such as the little gentle actions depicted in the love scenes between HT and PGL, the observation of HT's body languages by the Bendahara, the cryptic 'hantaran' message sent by PGL are also part of being Malay - we are after all, the ones who coined the phrase "bercakap biar beralas, berkata biar beradab". It saddens me to see that as much as the viewwers have a point of view, many are on one side or the other. Tiara wanting to suit the film to her whims and fancies is not a reason not to watch a film, and certainly saying that not wanting an image of a historical event which has been transcribed by a dear family member to be ruined should be NOT considered as a reason not to watch a film. How many here understands the opening scene of Tiara running in the maze and what it symbolizes? I doubt many would.
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| posted by peminat setia PGL |
| Kita hanya mampu buat spekulasi tentang adat Melayu zaman dulu-dulu. Kalau nak ikut kronologi sejarah, masa peminangan Puteri Gunung Ledang, Hang Tuah sudahpun beristeri dan beranak mungkin bercucu. Kan tak baik berlaku curang. Berdua-duaan hingga timbulkan syak wasangka. Walhal dia kan pahlawan terbilang. Lagi pulak tu gila-gilakan PGL. Actually, cerita tu lebih seronok kalau PGL datang nak jumpa Hang Tuah, but dia jatuh cinta pulak dengan Tun Mamat. Apa lah salahnya Tun Mamat bercinta dengan PGL. Lepas tu dia turun dan buat cerita serba serbi pasal 'hantaran' yang PGL minta. Mesti sensasi! Pasal adat-adat ni......hmmmmm kengkadang kita ni cakap saja sanjung adat.
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| posted by azie |
| Dear anakmelayu You opine 'yusuf, razak....golongannya' as 'pembikin filem nyamuk.'Fyi, i derive pleasure watching their films despite all its 'flaws'(perhaps as you perceive it)True, movie awards and sales figures do not necessarily indicate artistic merit, however, if you're one of those who feel compelled to preach against 'filem nyamuk', i suggest you take a leaf from Shakespeare's: 'Dost thou think thou art cultured, there should not be cakes or ale?' Go figure.
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| posted by azie |
| errata...'akumelayu' not 'anakmelayu'. Thousand apologies.
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| posted by azharr |
| Just saw "Sultan Mahmud Mangkat Dijulang" today after so many years. boy, M. Amin is still the best Sultan Mahmud ever! moral value of the story (if there's any lah) - "Executive Producer yang zalim wajim di sanggah!!!!" Jangan marah, just 'cuit-cuit' only. muaheheh
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| posted by makbedah miang |
| Heee.....geli geleman mak bayangkan kalau Puteri tu umoq 16 tahun, Hang Tuah tu umoq dah dekat-dekat nak sayup.....alahai....tak rela.......
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| posted by alas kaki |
| "How many here understands the opening scene of Tiara running in the maze and what it symbolizes? I doubt many would. posted by Adnan Qiyas adnan_qiyas@yahoo.com.sg" "alas" apa yang kau pakai bila kau mengakhiri komentar hakiki (virtous?) kau begitu? you should meet Hai Leong dude. Let him teach you a thing or two about 'respect'. hehe
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| posted by Adnan Qiyas |
| ""alas" apa yang kau pakai bila kau mengakhiri komentar hakiki (virtous?) kau begitu? you should meet Hai Leong dude. Let him teach you a thing or two about 'respect'. hehe" Tiada alas. Cuma emosi, berbaur sedikit kekeliruan. Sedangkan semua disini juga kurang beralas. Memang senang nak tepis anggapan saya dengan satu komen mengenai peribadi saya. Saya tidak menafikan saya juga membuat komentar yg menyentuh peribadi mereka2 yang bersuara di sini. "Respect"? I believe the context that you implied in that comment, would actually be in my favour. Anyway, did you understand the symbolic?
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| posted by shanty town |
| i don't really think all of us who've watched the movie was looking forward so much to a really intimate intimate scene like we do see in most foreign movies, but real CHEMISTRY is the thing that we're looking for. hang tuah and the dear puteri can make as much body language and polite gestures of love they want, but if there's no true chemistry, then it's more like a formality that says, "hey, we've done this, we've done that, that makes us in love." it would be unfair to compare a local film to a hollywood, this i agree, but please forgive me, for here i must: look at "Lost in Translation", Bill Murray and Scarlett Johanssen hardly touched each other, but the chemistry was so, so strong it's almost dying to jump right out of the screen and make u kiss the person next to you. and just to be fair, here's another comparison to another locally produced film: in Visits: Hungry Ghost Anthology, James Lee's short, Waiting for them. The leading female character's affair with the bespectaled businessman, did they really need to kiss to show they're together? NO. Even a silent breakfast scene was sufficient to show the tension, intensity, conflict and dilemma between the two characters. Yes, both of these movies had shown their characters in more intimate scenes, but bear in mind, these scenes are extremely minimum and even without these scenes, one could feel them almost instantly from their screen presence and acting and most important of all CHESMISTRY. one may feel that it's inapproprite to compare M. Nasir to Bill Murray or Tiara Jacqulina to Scarlett Johanssen, but what about when the comparison is drawn to a local production like Visits? one may say that the comparisons i've drawn here are not in the consideration of the actor's or actress's experience, but it's M. Nasir we're talking about here and if one feels that the actors in PGL are not experienced enough to be drawn such comparisons as i've drawn, then they should have gotten better actors. is it wrong for us malaysian to bitch and comment whenever an "epic" such as PGL is produced? well, i think we can all safely say that there are other local productions that are indeed better than PGL, be that in mainstream cinema, films from older days, or in the independent film circles. the technical aspects and invested cash of this film may be of top class by local production standards, but it's really not the technical aspects we're looking at, is it? Alien VS Predator had comparitively superior technical aspects and more money dumped in, but AVP is pure and absolute cowdung compared to PGL is it not? yes, indeed, it's a good film by local standards but it's certainly not a "great" film and it's definately not the "best" film ever locally made. and because it's not a "great" nor the "best", there will be and must be critics.
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| posted by The Last Swordsman |
| Me here... I don't want to be controversial or anything else. I respect your views and your ideas. All of your ideas are your own and in this 'battlefield' there are always sword-clashing and those who fall. Anyway, PGL is of course flawed like all the previous Malaysian films but at least, it gives a new stepping stone for others to learn to. The film follows the path of Western and Hong Kong film-making but tell me,friends, how did Japan manage to emerge as a powerful force in the early 20th century? History has shown that they learnt all the arts and science of the West and in turn challenged their old masters by sinking a Russian warship at Tsushima Strait 1903. Get what I mean? Japan learn almost everything from the West, preserved their values, and emerged as both military power... poof...atomic bomb...then as an economic giant. Even Proton Saga is actually a Mitsubishi car. Forget about that military babble. I must still commend PGL as a daring effort to break away from the old coccoon of the proven formulas of millionaire film producers. Sembilu, Tragedi Oktober, Pasrah, Gila-Gila Pengantin...I mean they're good for some of the masses but poisonous to some of us. Just think: some animals eat what we know as poisonous like vulture eating carcasses but no single vulture has died of eating carcasses. And obviously, a dove would not eat carcass, eh? So, if you hate Yusof Haslam's film, go and watch what suits you, say, 'Aliens Vs Predators' and that would sound like 'Local vs Foreign'. I know some of you call our films bangang. It's OK because I don't really favour our films much too. I mean I'm a man who grew up watching foreign epic films and historical war. If you give me a choice between Lt. Adnan and The Light Horsemen, I would choose latter. The latter depicts a courageous charge of the Australian Light Horse regiment and the last great cavalry charge ever to occur in the 20th century. So back to PGL, ahhh.... What a nice paradigm shift! Flawed but a good try. Nevermind the flaws or imperfections. Let us make the imperfection as a motivation (I love pun!) to make better epics. Why not make film about the invasion of Melaka by the Portuguese and the struggle by the Sultan to retake it.? Ah, then again, a film without love or cintan cintun as one might say it, won't sell. Anyway, no one would actually produce such film, eh? But you get the idea. Anyway, PGL can be commended for trying to break away from the old paradigm. Like I said, a flawed piece but then again, what is not flawed? Even the great LOTR was once criticised for omitting some characters like Tom Bombadil, the mighty elf-lord Glorfindel and for killing the elf warrior Haldir (in the book, Haldir leads an elf contingent heading for the western island). But LOTR still manages to capture wide fans and compliments. Ah, I babble. So shoot me please! The late Frank Herbert who wrote Dune once remarked that to turn something into film is like translating English into German. the wordings will be different and most of the meaning will carry some other meanings but still hover within the same theme. Get what I mean? Same like PGL. To turn something into film requires modification. Like Troy: Achilles didn't die that way. And Paris knew for certain how Achilles' mother had dipped him into the black water of the river Styx. Get what I mean? Nevertheless, I salute the attempt. I will still rate it lower than Troy or Hang Tuah by P. Ramlee but that signals a rebirth for our industry to move into a whole new horizon. It is a battle cry. Draw your saber and charge ahead. For every casualty we will charge to victory. Bravo Malaysia!
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| posted by Alas Kaki |
| Alas Wed, Oct 06 2004 04:06:50 Tiada alas. Cuma emosi, berbaur sedikit kekeliruan. Sedangkan semua disini juga kurang beralas. Memang senang nak tepis anggapan saya dengan satu komen mengenai peribadi saya. Saya tidak menafikan saya juga membuat komentar yg menyentuh peribadi mereka2 yang bersuara di sini. "Respect"? I believe the context that you implied in that comment, would actually be in my favour. Anyway, did you understand the symbolic? posted by Adnan Qiyas adnan_qiyas@yahoo.com.sg why don't you share your great knowledge on the symbolic with 'us' - kakiseni readers? 'we' would really appreciate that : )
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| posted by Steve Scott |
| Wow, quite a lot of negative comments about this movie. I'm from UK, married to a Malaysian, and we both loved the movie. In fact, we've watched it twice! It's odd to say, but I found the pacing of the movie very good. I never felt it drag, unlike movies such as Lord of the Rings and Troy, which did have me looking at my watch at times. PGL never did that, not once. I was completely swallowed up in the atmosphere. In the second viewing, I *did* notice the fleeting shots of modernity (oil palms, mining pools, brick walls - even 15th Century England was lacking in red bricks). As for Melaka, yes, it does look more kampung than bandar, but it was never a distraction. As for the CGI, it *is* there. You just don't notice it at first, which is precisely the point. Much more subtle, unlike CGI blow-fests such as Van Helsing. It will be very interesting to see how this movie fares overseas, especially as it's recently been put in the running for next year's Oscars, in the Best Foreign Film category. So yeah, I enjoyed it, my wife enjoyed it, the audience in both occasions, loved it. Congratulations to the cast and crew!
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| posted by aelana |
| I would have to agree with Scott's comments, PGL is enjoyable and I personally loved it... ones just needs towatch it with an open mind.Then maybe due recognition would be given to the fact that this movie is leaps and bounds above the other local commercially produced movies. PGL is definitely in a class of its own when compared to other Malaysian productions such as, hmmm...all the yusoff haslam flicks, the mami jarum series, the senario 'dramas', that suhaimi baba output (does one really think that it only takes long hair and red eyes to scare an audience?) and a list of forgettable others that have been produced for the past, i'm guessing... 20 years. Wonder why I have not read much negative comments being hurled at these movies? Must be the Malaysian preference...
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| posted by EZE MONEY |
| I DY HEAR JUST TO SAY HELLO TO ALL GUY MEN
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| posted by Iz |
| Hi guys, anyway lets put aside all the comments of the story and feel the love that exist in there.
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| posted by rahman |
| Pertama saya ucapkan tahniah kepada semua crew filem putri gunung ledang yang telahpun berjaya di peringkat antara bangsa. Namun demikian, memandangkan bahawa filem ini adalah filem kerjasama antara malaysia dan indonesia dan tidak dapat dinafikan bahawa peranan indonesia sangatlah besar dalam membantu kejayaan filem ini, adalah sepatutnya media, akhbar dan orang-orang malaysia memberikan pemberitaan dan dan penghormatan yang seimbang. Kerana menurut saya, akhbar dan media tidak mengambil kira peranan indonesia dalam filem tersebut. Kita bangsa malaysia seharusnya merasa malu kerana sepertinya kita adalah bangsa yang tidak dapat mengakui dan berterima kasih kepada bangsa lain. elain itu kita pun sepatutnya malu kerana berbangga dan membesarkan pencapaian film ini yang di indonesia pencapaian seperti itu adalah pencapaian yang biasa-biasa sahaja.
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| posted by Syahira Sharif |
| All good, only one flaw. What the bloody hell is the eclipse thing and the fighting like Fong Sai Yuk thing?????? It doesn't make sense. And the joke about penampar Bugis, Arab and so, is funny, but twice is enough.
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| posted by effie |
| i agree with rahman..Hang Tuah waktu meminang puteri gunung ledang, umurnya adalah dlm sekitar 60, tapi kelihatan 40 tahun, mengikut sejarah melayu. so, eddry sepatutnya lebih kan membaca dan mengkaji sebelum buat komen..
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| posted by True fan |
| I think overall, the story was a good one despite of a little bit of errors here and there. So sincerely, I would like to congratulate Tiara for her bravery in making this film. Well she has taken tons of risks there. And above all, the song " Asmaradana " is really trully sensational and Tiara is really an amazing singer ! Congrats Tiara, keep it up ! I don't listen to malay songs a lot but this one really captured me, with the music and especially of course, her unique voice ! I hope she will start singing soon..and make more interesting movies unlike the usual, common, boring ones..
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| posted by lifeinside |
| I am happy to repeat this comment: "SUCH A STUPID IGNORANT Wed, Sep 22 2004 14:01:30 Ed, i think you are so ignorant and made a prejudgement about the film without actually watching it.i salute those who watched it and made their comment whether good or bad.It depends on individual's taste. What the hell you are talking about your grandma?Is she a historian? " Who is your grandma? A historian? Harhar that set me off laughing like hell. I just watched PGL the musical just now, and it BLEW MY MIND, kicked off my socks, any over-rated euphorism that i can say, I'll say. Because it is really fantastic beyond words can describe. You must sit there and watch it yourself. You'll feel the magic when you didn't realise tears started flowing and you smile and laugh from the scene. And Tiara, even tho she's old, she's still "oozes sex appeal" - quoting one of the review i had read. For me, as long as she's sexy, no problem dude. The problem is you trusting your grandma too much ;)
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